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Post by SA Hunter on Jul 7, 2021 9:25:46 GMT 10
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Post by rgreenw on Jul 7, 2021 10:15:43 GMT 10
imagine this .... the potential of war in the world in the not to distant future.... the following may seem absurd perhaps, but not a scenario that is out of the question.... Given the effects of the Covid virus on the worlds unstable economy and the potential for a global depression and shortages, I can only think back in history and the potential for global conflict by having a war to fix things .... so many major hotspots already exist. India v Pakistan & China; Iran v Israel & US and the basket case in the Middle East In considering the potential for conflict between China and the US, yes there is that potential for conflict and the acquisition of Taiwan by the Chinese, but why would you waste resources on a small fish... Consider an influence on a starving North Korea by China to launch a strike on the US and the focus being an EMP type attack (https://www.thecipherbrief.com/column_article/north-korea-emp-attack-an-existential-threat-today )(lots of interest by US military currently as a big exposure ... you should investigate) ..... or a significant cyber attack www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2021/june/experts-warn-cyber-hackers-emp-attacks-and-solar-storms-could-annihilate-our-electric-system so with the US in caos and weakened to focusing on itself .... China could have an open door to the Asia Pacific and in particular Australia and our resources that they obviously want and don’t want to pay for.... not sure if they would want the Australian people as resources though.....just saying that they have enough of their own.... You might say that other members of the QUAD would assist us from preventing China from walking in, but lets say due to opportunity with the US being incapacitated, that the likes of Pakistan enters into conflict with India at the behest of China and the likes of Iran initiates a conflict with Israel and subsequently igniting the sectarian aspects of the Middle East .... ‘we (Australia) would be on our own….’ Of interest look at the Chinese ownership of Merredin airport, Chinese state-owned conglomerate CITIC Limited built a jet airstrip in the Pilbara and exercise control over the deep water port at Cape Preston, Chinese takeover of Cockatoo Island near an Australian military training area in WA's Kimberley region (which also has an airfield and port facility), Chinese long-term lease and control of the Darwin Port, a Chinese-built airport next door to a key Australia-US naval base at Manus Island in PNG? .... go figure .... Not sure how the above scenario could play out or how it can be prevented if it was to come true but there is definitely a case for Australia (Australians) as a matter of urgency to become more aware of our vulnerability with whatever is to come. Spend what you want but you better hurry up Australia… |
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Post by rgreenw on Jul 7, 2021 10:19:11 GMT 10
Hi SA Hunter.... I have some good resource material, is there some facility where I can upload the information to share with others?
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Post by SA Hunter on Jul 7, 2021 10:46:13 GMT 10
Preparedness & All Things Related/Informative Links
Try this thread here, though each section has other link areas for specific threads.
Looking forward to browsing them.
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Post by Stealth on Jul 7, 2021 11:52:27 GMT 10
The business transaction's between Afghanistan and China don't concern me anywhere near as much as the military action in our own backyard. There's a lot of reasons behind that but one of the major ones is that the Afghanistan Taliban seem mostly interested in internal affairs. They want their caliphate to be THEIRS and no one else can have even implied control. The Chinese would have to do a lot of swift talking (and massive bribery) to gain Taliban acceptance, and frankly those that are at the top of the Taliban tree are probably rich as hell anyway.
What happens outside of their borders really isn't their problem (we can leave the Pakistan Taliban and Islamic State to another discussion) because they want control of THEIR dustbowl drug den. That leaves a very small cost benefit analysis for the Taliban leadership because they'd see it as giving away control of 'their' land. And that is ultimately their biggest driver. Not money, although that probably helps. Power, and control. I suspect there'll be enough internal struggles between the Afghani government, the Taliban, and the Chinese brokers that it won't become big enough to draw the US in. At least not in any significant way. They're getting out and I doubt their people would support going back no matter who ordered it.
Pakistan COULD start a pew-off with India at the word of China. I haven't seen any news to indicate that that's a concern though although I'll admit that I have to rely on mainstream media, because it's hard to know what smaller news reporters have in the way of bias. At least with regular MSM you have a fair idea of what their angle is when they're reporting.
I also don't think that they necessarily would be motivated to act on China's say-so because with India being pissy at the Chinese salami slicing at their northern border we have to remember that as a member of the Quad they have a decent amount of in-roads with the US as well. We COULD sink into a proxy war in the future, but at the moment I haven't really seen anything that indicates that China has that kind of pull on Pakistan. Lets not forget that Pakistan already borders one of the most unstable regions on the planet. Do they really want to add another biff into the mix? One that they really wouldn't see all that much benefit from?
Personally I don't see that happening any time soon.
If I were going to be putting money on anything, it wouldn't be China's influence in Afghanistan being the thing that tips us (or any other country) into WWIII. It's an interesting point of note. But I don't think it's big picture news. At least, not yet. PNG, Fiji, and other pacific region acquisitions seem a much more disturbing prospect.
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Post by frostbite on Jul 7, 2021 14:45:25 GMT 10
Jeez, I hope the Chinese don't launch a cruise missile attack on Parliament House in Canberra. Or the AFP, ASIO or DSD buildings. That would be a terrible blow for our nation.
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Post by malewithatail on Jul 7, 2021 17:00:51 GMT 10
You can be sure that somewhere in the world, either in Russia or China, there are nukes with Canberra, Sydney, Brisbane etc stamped on them.
China needs the west to supply food as they have had massive crop failures this season.
Look on the alternative web sites for the exact articles, such as natural news, and the commonsense show.
We might be looking at an "on the beach" scenario.
The colder the x-ray table, the more of your body needs to be on it.
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Post by rgreenw on Jul 7, 2021 17:28:36 GMT 10
An interesting perspective.... The "Brisbane Line" was a defence proposal supposedly formulated during World War II to concede the northern portion of the Australian continent in the event of an invasion by the Japanese. I'd suggest this would still hold true except the western portion of Australia would also go due to its mineral resources and Oil & Gas supplies and it wheat belt of course....
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Post by Joey on Jul 7, 2021 19:51:40 GMT 10
*Gympie Line
At the moment, the whole world is poised as a potential hotbed for multinational conflicts, and a lot of them could either directly or indirectly involve China either as a combatant or an instigator/string-puller
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Post by SA Hunter on Jul 7, 2021 20:24:15 GMT 10
Re China & Afghanistan;
I recently read a book called "Return of a King - The Battle for Afghanistan" by William Dalrymple. (2013 issue)
It discussed the invasions by the British, Russia & the US, and the ways that all invaders were defeated.
The last paragraph of the book;
"These are the last days of the Americans" said the other elder. "Next it will be the Chinese"
China is about to enter it's own Vietnam.
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Post by Stealth on Jul 9, 2021 10:14:42 GMT 10
That's the thing with that region. People have tried to drag them kicking and screaming into the modern era for as long as it's existed. It's a region of cavemen and control freaks, and convincing them that 400 years have progressed in the rest of the world seems to be something they violently oppose as a cultural imperative that's so ingrained it's probably scientifically identifiable on their double helix.
China's MO is the long game passive. Softly. Quietly. Do it slowly so people get used to it and then it's too late to change. But Afghanistan's is the long game with belligerence. They seem to know what the modern era offers... And they just. don't. want it. They haven't come out of the stone age mentality and I'm not sure that China will be able to reconcile Afghanistan's aggressive attachment to knuckledragging. Is it that China literally can't comprehend that aspect of Afghan culture because it's so opposite to it's own? Or is it that they actually have no intention of long-gaming the region and they just want another notch in their implied control belt?
I think the 'China's Vietnam' comparison might actually be pretty apt although I have to wonder if it'll take them as long to realise it's a lost cause as it did everyone else.
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Post by frostbite on Jul 9, 2021 12:06:43 GMT 10
How is China going to reconcile it's genocide of Muslims with a Taliban flush with newly acquired American weapons?
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Post by Stealth on Jul 9, 2021 18:44:34 GMT 10
How is China going to reconcile it's genocide of Muslims with a Taliban flush with newly acquired American weapons? Probably as successfully as the Americans when faced with Taliban flush with Russian weapons lmao. I won't be shedding any tears if it comes to that for them. Not for either side. |
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Post by Joey on Jul 12, 2021 23:07:19 GMT 10
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Post by SA Hunter on Jul 13, 2021 15:47:06 GMT 10
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Post by spinifex on Jul 13, 2021 19:42:32 GMT 10
Hmmm.
China might be thinking a police action in Afstan is useful to blood its troops. Harden them up a bit for a later crack at Taiwan.
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Post by spinifex on Jul 14, 2021 8:50:53 GMT 10
I feel sorry for their anonymous foot-sloggers who are going to become target practice and meat confetti for the Goat Herders. I'm sure they'd prefer to stay home and eat rice/noodles and practice making more baby Chinese.
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Post by malewithatail on Jul 14, 2021 9:42:23 GMT 10
Hmmm. China might be thinking a police action in Afstan is useful to blood its troops. Harden them up a bit for a later crack at Taiwan. Or the west, including USA and Australia. OOps, theyve already bought out the polifilths and most companies anyway, so why bother. A phaser on stun is like a day without orange juice. |
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Post by SA Hunter on Jul 19, 2021 16:53:22 GMT 10
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Post by Joey on Jul 19, 2021 19:00:05 GMT 10
Don't forget the Chinese spy ship sitting inside the Aust economic zone but just on the edge of the Aust territorial waters spying on the Talisman Sabre war games happening in North Qld at the moment involving USA, Japan, UK, Canada, South Korea, NZ.
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