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Post by milspec on Aug 3, 2021 18:36:15 GMT 10
This interview makes some interesting points about China playing the long game and inflitrating the (US) education system to inject communist/socialist principles and achieving its goals by exploiting western liberal attitudes in the university sector. It is rephrasing communist principles using contemporary language (think social justice and equal rights) and morphed from classical communist class based societal divisions used by Marx & Stalin into race based societal divisions in todays liberal western democracies. Those societal divisions were used to create mass unrest & bring down the extant ruling class and open the way for Communist takeover. Its easy to see the parallels with todays widespread racial unrest.
I'd be interested to hear if any of you have rebuttals for the cases made by the interview participants, because when I listened to it a lot of it sounded plausible and familiar.
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Post by malewithatail on Aug 3, 2021 20:04:08 GMT 10
Add to that the amount of land and resources they are buying, and you get a takeover eventually.
Error reading REALITY.SYS - Universe halted.
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Post by milspec on Aug 4, 2021 7:45:09 GMT 10
It makes perfect sense to use biological weapons on the world when 1. You control production of pharmaceuticals, PPE and medical equipment to manage the problem. 2. You dont give a toss about killing of civilians on a global scale. 3. You dont give a toss about world wide condemnation. 4. You have a massive population of your own which will leave you with a proportionally larger workforce to conquer the world after the biological weapons have run their course. |
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Post by norseman on Aug 4, 2021 8:19:38 GMT 10
It makes perfect sense to use biological weapons on the world when 1. You control production of pharmaceuticals, PPE and medical equipment to manage the problem. 2. You dont give a toss about killing of civilians on a global scale. 3. You dont give a toss about world wide condemnation. 4. You have a massive population of your own which will leave you with a proportionally larger workforce to conquer the world after the biological weapons have run their course. Absolutely 100% agree with this! If you are a nation that historically and almost universally believes that your destiny is to control the World as the supreme race (Sinocentrism) it's for China a non-negotiable conclusion! |
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Post by Beno on Aug 4, 2021 8:54:05 GMT 10
This is what covid is doing now. Wuhan lab, dodgy american links, no way of knowing what is happening there in China, china building nuke arsenal and massive improvements in military tech, All this is now modern history folks. Git ready to rumble.
no ethics in Chinese research so probably have GM human driod troops to do what ever heir masters want much better than anyone else, no ethics AI to target non chinese..All very laughable cause we built the beast with our own greed and lack of corporate accountability. We may have to EAD on this one.
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Post by SA Hunter on Aug 11, 2021 10:44:47 GMT 10
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Post by Beno on Aug 11, 2021 10:57:42 GMT 10
That news title sounds a bit ray ray.
We have passed the point of being able to initiate an effective pre emptive strike. Coronavirus weakened the world and accelerated the Chinese agenda.
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Post by frostbite on Aug 11, 2021 16:38:41 GMT 10
I strongly suspect I would have more freedom under a Chinese military dictatorship than I currently have under the NSW Liberal party. So come on over Chinese army, I'll throw an extra shrimp on the barbie for you.
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Post by stevo on Aug 11, 2021 23:51:45 GMT 10
check this out, goes into some deep shit concerning china towards the end of the vid. Its about the 2020 usa election at first but shows how much corruption and chinese influences are involved.I dont think this vid will last very long on youtube.
Description incase vid gets cornholed!
Your_Wake_Up_Call_-_Opening_Video_from_Mike_Lindell_s_Cyber_Symposium
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Post by Beno on Aug 12, 2021 21:21:28 GMT 10
Pretty full on there Stevo. The problem is i’m so distrustful that i don’t believe some of the footage due to thinking they are deep fakes. I dunno anymore. A couple of years ago i was thinking china was firm but not so much of a real threat. Now i’m real concerned….what’s changed to make me change my view so absolutely? I just don’t know what to believe anymore.
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Post by stevo on Aug 12, 2021 23:34:25 GMT 10
Pretty full on there Stevo. The problem is i’m so distrustful that i don’t believe some of the footage due to thinking they are deep fakes. I dunno anymore. A couple of years ago i was thinking china was firm but not so much of a real threat. Now i’m real concerned….what’s changed to make me change my view so absolutely? I just don’t know what to believe anymore. Dunno mate, i take most stuff with a grain of salt, but with that chinese stuff it kind of rings true. I mean i dont think most chinese people have bad hearts, they probably scared to death of their government so sign up for stuff like that so as not to mess with the status quo hey. The way i see it is the the powers that are see china as a role model for the future of modern society that is why they are in bed with the chinese powers because they see $$$ signs everywhere and people are just pauns in there war games and such, i mean the only people who profit from war are those behind the scenes who are mega rich, so they push the pauns around the chess board as it were.
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Post by milspec on Aug 13, 2021 20:01:45 GMT 10
I hear you Beno.
Understanding the extent of meddling in the US election is a real challenge in this day and age with all the vested interests and the consequential bias in the reporting we get exposed to. God only knows what the truth is there.
Trust your instincts with respect to where we are headed with China.
Chinese expansion in the South China sea is a given. Think about how this extends their military reach with ballistic missiles & air & naval force projection.
Chinese intent with respect to Taiwan is well known.
Chinese rhetoric from its 'wolf warriors' is on the public record.
What we know of Chinese military expansion via open source channels is cause for concern.
Chinese cyber attacks are real & widespread and I saw evidence of that in my military career.
Make your own judgements about how the CCP controls the information the Chinese people get to see and how that might influence their thinking.
Consider what you know about the sudden and sizeable increases the Australian government has made to defence spending aimed at responding to the threat from China.
With all of those factual considerations in mind it is not hard to conclude with a high degree of confidence that we have a great deal to be concerned about with China. Of course there are many other alarming things that get reported about Chinese activity and those things may have varying levels of accuracy making the pucture even worse but the well understood core issues are enough that we should all be genuinely concerned about China and how to deal with it.
I think we should be on an overt war footing with .gov forcing curtailed investment & manufacturing in China. Likewise we should be reduilding domestic manufacturing and reserves. Being on a war footing means reducing government spending in many areas to bolster our national resilience. This is where .gov needs courage to cut back in popular spending areas and spend where it counts, they need to communicate the threat openly & clearly to shutdown the vocal social welfare pundits and take the hurt in order to strengthen this country.
It'll be too late once the cyber attacks get serious and the missiles launch from the South China Sea and of course China will already have put an almighty economic, trade & supply squeeze on us at the same time. I shake my head in despair wondering how your average Australian will cope with that widespread and far reaching economic & lifestyle disruption and brute force military attack on Australian soil when things like disrupted toilet paper supply setmed to rock so many boats in recent history.
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Post by milspec on Aug 13, 2021 20:02:51 GMT 10
Lucky I wrapped it up there, I was almost ready to start on a rant.
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Post by norseman on Aug 14, 2021 6:41:54 GMT 10
I now believe when the attack comes it will be very sudden and totally without warning, it'll be a shattering, mind blowing "Shock & Awe" event for us Aussies!
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Post by milspec on Aug 14, 2021 8:17:48 GMT 10
I now believe when the attack comes it will be very sudden and totally without warning, it'll be a shattering, mind blowing "Shock & Awe" event for us Aussies! Perhaps. It could equally be an ambiguous and confusing event as a result of any combination of cyber disrupted communications and internet, disrupted and fake media, power outages, dysfunctional payments networks etc, traffic chaos & localised emergencies arising from targeted cyber attacks. Amid that scenario the military strikes could arrive. The fear and confusion would be palpable in our communities that are so accustomed to a daily diet of world wide news and reliant upon a functional just in time delivery network for their daily needs. |
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Post by malewithatail on Aug 14, 2021 9:40:44 GMT 10
Slow and steady, buy up as much land and businesses as discreetly as possible, slowly squeeze the country and when its weakened sufficiently, strike.
Why are Governments complacent in this destruction of our country ? Answer, they are in it as well, for money, power or even a seat on the CCP of Australia Governing Committee.
We are screwed folks, weve been sold out by the very people weve elected to look after us. Serves us right.
Facts just get in the way and impede progress.
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Post by Beno on Aug 15, 2021 13:45:35 GMT 10
I hear you Beno. Understanding the extent of meddling in the US election is a real challenge in this day and age with all the vested interests and the consequential bias in the reporting we get exposed to. God only knows what the truth is there. Trust your instincts with respect to where we are headed with China. Chinese expansion in the South China sea is a given. Think about how this extends their military reach with ballistic missiles & air & naval force projection. Chinese intent with respect to Taiwan is well known. Chinese rhetoric from its 'wolf warriors' is on the public record. What we know of Chinese military expansion via open source channels is cause for concern. Chinese cyber attacks are real & widespread and I saw evidence of that in my military career. Make your own judgements about how the CCP controls the information the Chinese people get to see and how that might influence their thinking. Consider what you know about the sudden and sizeable increases the Australian government has made to defence spending aimed at responding to the threat from China. With all of those factual considerations in mind it is not hard to conclude with a high degree of confidence that we have a great deal to be concerned about with China. Of course there are many other alarming things that get reported about Chinese activity and those things may have varying levels of accuracy making the pucture even worse but the well understood core issues are enough that we should all be genuinely concerned about China and how to deal with it. I think we should be on an overt war footing with .gov forcing curtailed investment & manufacturing in China. Likewise we should be reduilding domestic manufacturing and reserves. Being on a war footing means reducing government spending in many areas to bolster our national resilience. This is where .gov needs courage to cut back in popular spending areas and spend where it counts, they need to communicate the threat openly & clearly to shutdown the vocal social welfare pundits and take the hurt in order to strengthen this country. It'll be too late once the cyber attacks get serious and the missiles launch from the South China Sea and of course China will already have put an almighty economic, trade & supply squeeze on us at the same time. I shake my head in despair wondering how your average Australian will cope with that widespread and far reaching economic & lifestyle disruption and brute force military attack on Australian soil when things like disrupted toilet paper supply setmed to rock so many boats in recent history. Yeah i get that and agree. But i’m super curious what upset the happy little fairy tale we were being told not that long ago? It was all “asian century” mutual agreements, co-operation, free trade etc etc. It was all BS and yet we kept feeding the beast even when we knew it would end up biting us. I think we simply got outplayed using our own subterfuge rulebook. Hilarious when you look at it that way. The only issue i see bigger than China is our unelected ruling technocrat elites. |
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Post by norseman on Aug 15, 2021 14:03:01 GMT 10
I hear you Beno. Understanding the extent of meddling in the US election is a real challenge in this day and age with all the vested interests and the consequential bias in the reporting we get exposed to. God only knows what the truth is there. Trust your instincts with respect to where we are headed with China. Chinese expansion in the South China sea is a given. Think about how this extends their military reach with ballistic missiles & air & naval force projection. Chinese intent with respect to Taiwan is well known. Chinese rhetoric from its 'wolf warriors' is on the public record. What we know of Chinese military expansion via open source channels is cause for concern. Chinese cyber attacks are real & widespread and I saw evidence of that in my military career. Make your own judgements about how the CCP controls the information the Chinese people get to see and how that might influence their thinking. Consider what you know about the sudden and sizeable increases the Australian government has made to defence spending aimed at responding to the threat from China. With all of those factual considerations in mind it is not hard to conclude with a high degree of confidence that we have a great deal to be concerned about with China. Of course there are many other alarming things that get reported about Chinese activity and those things may have varying levels of accuracy making the pucture even worse but the well understood core issues are enough that we should all be genuinely concerned about China and how to deal with it. I think we should be on an overt war footing with .gov forcing curtailed investment & manufacturing in China. Likewise we should be reduilding domestic manufacturing and reserves. Being on a war footing means reducing government spending in many areas to bolster our national resilience. This is where .gov needs courage to cut back in popular spending areas and spend where it counts, they need to communicate the threat openly & clearly to shutdown the vocal social welfare pundits and take the hurt in order to strengthen this country. It'll be too late once the cyber attacks get serious and the missiles launch from the South China Sea and of course China will already have put an almighty economic, trade & supply squeeze on us at the same time. I shake my head in despair wondering how your average Australian will cope with that widespread and far reaching economic & lifestyle disruption and brute force military attack on Australian soil when things like disrupted toilet paper supply setmed to rock so many boats in recent history. Yeah i get that and agree. But i’m super curious what upset the happy little fairy tale we were being told not that long ago? It was all “asian century” mutual agreements, co-operation, free trade etc etc. It was all BS and yet we kept feeding the beast even when we knew it would end up biting us. I think we simply got outplayed using our own subterfuge rulebook. Hilarious when you look at it that way. The only issue i see bigger than China is our unelected ruling technocrat elites. and China = Same Enemy mate! "But i’m super curious what upset the happy little fairy tale we were being told not that long ago? It was all “asian century” mutual agreements, co-operation, free trade etc etc. It was all BS and yet we kept feeding the beast even when we knew it would end up biting us." Beno go back and look again the average bloke on the street started calling it out years before our dummfaark Politicians and Booboocrats woke up! Worse still many knew what was happening but remained complicit until public pressure forced them to stop taking the backhanders and free plane trips! |
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