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Post by spatial on Jun 5, 2022 14:44:25 GMT 10
This is a big escalation. I know I am sounding more and more alarmist but things on all fronts are ramping up.
Chinese fighter jet intercepted Australian surveillance aircraft in international airspace
A Chinese fighter jet intercepted an Australian surveillance aircraft last month, performing a "dangerous manoeuvre" in a dramatic mid-air incident, the Department of Defence has revealed.
The Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) P-8A Poseidon was conducting routine surveillance in international airspace above the South China Sea on May 26 when the J-16 jet flew "very close", set off flares and dropped chaff in its path.
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Post by Joey on Jun 5, 2022 14:55:08 GMT 10
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Post by Joey on Jun 5, 2022 14:56:31 GMT 10
This is a big escalation. I know I am sounding more and more alarmist but things on all fronts are ramping up. Chinese fighter jet intercepted Australian surveillance aircraft in international airspaceA Chinese fighter jet intercepted an Australian surveillance aircraft last month, performing a "dangerous manoeuvre" in a dramatic mid-air incident, the Department of Defence has revealed. The Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) P-8A Poseidon was conducting routine surveillance in international airspace above the South China Sea on May 26 when the J -16 jet flew "very close", set off flares and dropped chaff in its path.5 JUNE 2022 SOUTH CHINA SEA: Australia has made a formal protest to the Peoples Republic of China (PRC) after a Peoples Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) Shenyang J16 strike fighter conducted a reckless and extremely dangerous manoeuvre that risked a mid air collision with a Royal Australian Air Force P-8A Poseidon over the South China Sea. The incident occurred on May 26, only five days after the new Albanese Government was elected and in the direct wake of the new Prime Minister attending the Quad meeting in Tokyo. According to the RAAF, the P-8A Poseidon Multi mission Maritime Aircraft (MMMA) was flying a routine maritime surveillance operation over an undisclosed area in the South China Sea when it was intercepted by the PLAAF J16 fighter which conducted a dangerously close pass across the P-8A's flightpath, released countermeasures that impacted the Poseidon and then cut in front of the Australian MMMA to blast the aircraft with its engine thrust. The PLAAF J16 then launched flares and chaff directly in front of the RAAF P-8A Poseidon some of which were ingested into the P-8A's engines, a very aggressive and potentially lethal act. The incident was not the first involving an RAAF P-8A Poseidon or AP-3C Orion in recent years and followed a pattern of reckless Chinese fighter activity targeting Australian, US, Japanese, Singaporean, Malaysian and Indonesian surveillance aircraft conducting missions in international airspace. The reckless Chinese interception of the RAAF P-8A was the latest in a series of Chinese provocations towards Australian Defence Force platforms and the second involving an RAAF P-8A Poseidon after the laser engagement of an RAAF Poseidon just off the Northern Territory coastline in February. The Shenyang J16 is a Chinese evolution of the Russian Sukhoi Su27 Flanker airframe that entered service in 2015 and is now routinely deployed by the PLAAF in its illegal operations in support of its attempted annexation of the South China Sea. RAAF P-8A Poseidons and AP-3C (EW) Orions conduct frequent maritime surveillance and maritime signals intelligence/signature capture missions over the South China Sea which stretches from just south of the Indonesian Rau Islands east of Singapore and north to the Gulf of Tonkin along the Vietnam/PRC border. The RAAF operates a fleet of 12 P-8A Poseidon MMMA surveillance aircraft flown by the RAAF Edinburgh South Australia based No 11 Squadron. |
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Post by frostbite on Jun 5, 2022 18:27:51 GMT 10
I'm really looking forward to our response next time a Chinese surveillance aircraft comes within range of our fighters.
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Post by d on Jun 5, 2022 19:08:51 GMT 10
With the push towards local manufacturing and development I feel like they pose a threat but when it comes to chin we will fook em up
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Post by Joey on Jun 7, 2022 17:40:33 GMT 10
China warns Australia of 'serious consequences' after warplane intercept
By Richard Wood • Senior Journalist
11:31am Jun 7, 2022
China has urged Australia to respect its national security concerns and avoid "serious consequences" after a Chinese military jet carried out a "dangerous" interception of a Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) surveillance plane.
A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman overnight refused to comment on the incident involving an RAAF P-8A Poseidon.
It was conducting routine surveillance in international airspace above the South China Sea on May 26 when a Chinese PLA Air Force J-16 jet flew "very close", set off flares and dropped chaff in its path, the Australian Defence Department said.
But the spokesman insisted China's military conducted operations in line with international law.
"China will never allow any country to violate China's sovereignty and security in the name of freedom of navigation, and endanger peace and stability in the South China Sea," the spokesman said.
"China once again urges the Australian side to earnestly respect China's national security interests and major concerns, and to be cautious in words and deeds, so as to avoid misjudgement and serious consequences."
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said during his visit to Jakarta yesterday the interception was dangerous and threatened the safety of the RAAF plane and its crew.
"We regard the actions of China in this area as being an act of aggression," Albanese said.
READ MORE: Why the sparsely-populated South Pacific islands have become the next US-China contest
The contested waters of the South China Sea. (CNN/Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative)
Earlier, Defence Minister Richard Marles said the federal government had raised its concerns over the "very dangerous" intercept with the Chinese government.
The crew of the RAAF plane were unharmed and returned to base after the incident.
The Canadian government has also complained that China has been harassing its military surveillance aircraft monitoring North Korea as part of a UN mission.
But China's defence ministry said Canada should halt "any risky and provocative behaviour" or face "serious consequences".
The vast South China Sea has become hotly disputed between China and other countries, including Australia.
Tensions in the contested waters have ratcheted up since 2014 as China has turned sandbars into islands, equipping them with airfields, ports and weapons systems and warned Western warships and aircraft to stay away from them.
There have been other close encounters between Chinese and foreign warplanes over the years.
The worst of these occurred in 2001 when a Chinese fighter jet collided with a US Navy reconnaissance plane over the South China Sea.
In that case, the pilot of the Chinese F-8 fighter was killed and the US plane had to make an emergency landing on China's Hainan Island.
The 24 US crew members were held on the Chinese island for 11 days before their release.
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Post by milspec on Jun 7, 2022 17:56:36 GMT 10
There will be footage of that flogger dispensing flares as the crew will have had its FLIR extended and tracking the aircraft as it manoeuvred around the P-8. I wonder if that will be made public.
Pity they dont carry AIM-9s like the Nimrods did.
PS I know it was a Flanker-E but Ima gonna stick with the whole ensemble, pilot and all as a flogger.
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Post by spatial on Jun 7, 2022 23:14:42 GMT 10
Good assessment of imminent Chinease invasion of Taiwan,
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Post by SA Hunter on Jun 12, 2022 21:28:20 GMT 10
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Post by spatial on Jun 13, 2022 7:24:21 GMT 10
More saber rattling.
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Post by bug on Jun 13, 2022 16:45:52 GMT 10
Taiwan has nobody to declare independence from. It is the Republic of China, the rightful government of all of China. All it needs to do is drop it's claim over the mainland to become an entirely separate entity. The UN offered this up at the time the CCP gained formal recognition decades ago. Chang Kai Shek rejected it as he still wanted to retake the mainland. These days the answer would be different.
The CCP is just a toddler throwing a tantrum because it can't have a toy that it wants.
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Post by Stealth on Jun 14, 2022 13:38:18 GMT 10
PS I know it was a Flanker-E but Ima gonna stick with the whole ensemble, pilot and all as a flogger. Close, but the pilot is colloquially known as a ' flog'. 🤣 My five seconds of googlefu didn't turn up and vids of the intercept. I can imagine the chirping from the deck would've consisted of so much swearing from the flight crew that any audio would be a constant stream of "BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP". Wonder if they're going to start sending escorts. I'm half way between 'yes they should' and 'no they shouldn't' for a myriad of reasons. I'm glad it's not me that has to make that choice. Depends on the purpose of the flight I guess. But what's the next step? First it was lasing, next a chaff dump, next... I guess they just put a warhead on a forehead and see what happens? |
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Post by bug on Jun 14, 2022 17:13:42 GMT 10
Yup, that's the CCP way. Gradual small escalation until their opponent backs down.
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Post by SA Hunter on Jun 14, 2022 22:32:12 GMT 10
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Post by iceage on Jun 15, 2022 0:24:36 GMT 10
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Post by SA Hunter on Jun 15, 2022 1:07:10 GMT 10
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Post by spatial on Jun 15, 2022 7:22:18 GMT 10
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Post by Joey on Jun 15, 2022 16:20:45 GMT 10
Now watch as they use this new rules too beef up the chinese troops in the pacific nations that fell under China's wing as well as huge upgrades in facilities and manpower on the illegal Chinese made islands around the south China Sea. Possibly expect to see a sudden influx of fighting age male chinese tourists arriving here as tourists just ahead of when china plans to launch against Taiwan so they can possibly conduct guerrilla operations here to destabilise our war efforts of supporting Taiwan. Info has recently come out about the Chinese using a container ship as a base of operations to launch spy drones over US navy ships off the coast of California over the last few years, and I suspect that they have been doing the same to our ships here. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10906101/amp/Drones-swarmed-warships-California-2019-mystery-Hong-Kong-cargo-ship.html |
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Post by Joey on Jun 15, 2022 16:50:41 GMT 10
www.reuters.com/world/china/china-bank-protest-stopped-by-health-codes-turning-red-depositors-say-2022-06-14/SHANGHAI, June 14 (Reuters) - A protest planned by hundreds of bank depositors in central China seeking access to their frozen funds has been thwarted because the authorities have turned their health code apps red, several depositors told Reuters. The depositors were planning to travel to the central province of Henan this week from across China to protest against an almost two-month block on accessing at least $178 million of deposits, which has left companies unable to pay workers and individuals unable to access savings. read more Rights groups have warned China could use its vast COVID surveillance infrastructure to stifle dissent. Without a green code on their smartphone app, citizens lose access to public transport and spaces such as restaurants and malls, as well as the right to travel across the country. "They are putting digital handcuffs on us," said a depositor from Sichuan province surnamed Chen, who declined to use his full name for fear of government retribution.
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Post by spatial on Jun 15, 2022 16:57:37 GMT 10
www.reuters.com/world/china/china-bank-protest-stopped-by-health-codes-turning-red-depositors-say-2022-06-14/SHANGHAI, June 14 (Reuters) - A protest planned by hundreds of bank depositors in central China seeking access to their frozen funds has been thwarted because the authorities have turned their health code apps red, several depositors told Reuters. The depositors were planning to travel to the central province of Henan this week from across China to protest against an almost two-month block on accessing at least $178 million of deposits, which has left companies unable to pay workers and individuals unable to access savings. read more Rights groups have warned China could use its vast COVID surveillance infrastructure to stifle dissent. Without a green code on their smartphone app, citizens lose access to public transport and spaces such as restaurants and malls, as well as the right to travel across the country. "They are putting digital handcuffs on us," said a depositor from Sichuan province surnamed Chen, who declined to use his full name for fear of government retribution. The kind of things a country does prior to starting a war. |
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