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Post by Joey on Aug 7, 2022 13:17:30 GMT 10
"It's not our fault we sent live missiles over a country full of innocent people, they made us do it..." 😑 Just like North Korea did to Japan. The difference is that the world actually did something about NK, but we do nothing about the CCP. China is too big and engrained too much into the world manufacturing economy to throw sanctions at. Just see what they did to us because we dared to support an enquiry into the origins of covid, barley, wheat, coal, wine all banned from Australia to try and cripple us locally. They have shown that they have zero regard to things like the UN when it rules against them like them being told they have zero historical ownership rights to the South china sea and islands that they have taken over, and if pushed back with massive sanctions against them, I see them acting like a spoilt brat and flipping the table over and doing something silly like blockading the shipping channels etc that supply the world around china as a start. |
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Post by bug on Aug 7, 2022 15:02:56 GMT 10
Interesting point, the shipping channels. The CCP is dependent on the oil from the Middle East. Keeping these shipping lanes open and pirate free is largely being done by the US (and a few others). All it would take is for the US to refuse to protect any ship bound for the CCP and the pirates would be there in a heartbeat. The CCP would be forced to deploy their own ships to those areas, leaving them nothing available to bully their neighbours with.
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Post by Stealth on Aug 9, 2022 19:12:00 GMT 10
I don't think it's very likely that anyone would try to lock down the Strait of Hormuz to prevent fuel shipping. The Iranians have a VERY tight grip of the tightest part of the strait, any 'pirates' attempting to close the strait would likely be blown out of the water in a heartbeat.
So if we see the strait suddenly 'closed by pirate activity, drug runners, dangerous issues motivated groups', you can almost be sure of who's behind it in my opinion. Because Iran would be extremely unlikely to allow anyone to believe that anyone BUT Iran was in control of that particular area. And I suspect China would feel the same way, so for it to be locked down means Iran are behind it no matter who it's blamed on. China would know who to look to. And blame.
No other local country is going to risk the wrath of Iran and it's nukes and if they were to try to shut down the strait, well. Iran isn't known for it's patience and moderation lol.
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Post by Joey on Aug 9, 2022 19:48:16 GMT 10
China would block shipping channels closer to home to completely cut off us here and also the pacific islands that are not already under their thumb.
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Post by norseman on Aug 10, 2022 7:37:52 GMT 10
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Post by malewithatail on Aug 10, 2022 8:54:19 GMT 10
I think we've been infiltrated by china....
Not gunna waste a tagline on a bot.....
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Post by Beno on Aug 10, 2022 15:22:29 GMT 10
I don't think it is d. Minerchina appears way more likeable than d and appears to be at least having a go at making some money. Much unlike d who just slung opinion and mud. And yes i know minerchina is likely a AI bot but i still like those code strings of 0's and 1's better than (keen4the) d. 😁 |
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Post by tactile on Aug 11, 2022 8:10:07 GMT 10
Defiantly worth the time if you're into the China thing...
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Post by bug on Aug 11, 2022 9:46:26 GMT 10
What an asshole.
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Post by bug on Aug 11, 2022 9:49:33 GMT 10
I don't think it's very likely that anyone would try to lock down the Strait of Hormuz to prevent fuel shipping. The Iranians have a VERY tight grip of the tightest part of the strait, any 'pirates' attempting to close the strait would likely be blown out of the water in a heartbeat. So if we see the strait suddenly 'closed by pirate activity, drug runners, dangerous issues motivated groups', you can almost be sure of who's behind it in my opinion. Because Iran would be extremely unlikely to allow anyone to believe that anyone BUT Iran was in control of that particular area. And I suspect China would feel the same way, so for it to be locked down means Iran are behind it no matter who it's blamed on. China would know who to look to. And blame. No other local country is going to risk the wrath of Iran and it's nukes and if they were to try to shut down the strait, well. Iran isn't known for it's patience and moderation lol. The strait of Malacca is the one to watch. Big but not well known pirate problem there. Indonesia and Malaysia are both victims of the CCPs territory grabs in the south china sea too. |
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Post by SA Hunter on Aug 13, 2022 13:01:13 GMT 10
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Post by Joey on Aug 13, 2022 19:53:15 GMT 10
China has the upper hand that they would be fighting on home turf and have a quick resupply due to the close proximity compared to the US that would have to sail ship from the other side of the world to beef up ships/numbers for those knocked out in the opening salvos, as I imagine that China would knock out their regional supply bases in the area. |
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Post by bug on Aug 14, 2022 14:56:36 GMT 10
By "China's home turf", presumably you mean the Republic of China (Taiwan), not the PRC aggressors.
Taiwanese are almost unanimous in rejecting Beijing. The few doubters are doubters no longer after seeing what has happened to Hong Kong. HK and Taiwan are/were vastly more wealthy and more free than the PRC. HK is now no better than any other large city in the PRC. Meanwhile Taiwan still prospers on a level more like Singapore than the PRC.
Taiwan is very, very hard to invade due to geography. It is more like Japan than the Chinese mainland. A tiny defending force can wreak havok on invaders.
The only realistic strategy would be a long term blockade. This would undoubtedly lead to sanctions that would push an already faltering PRC economy over the edge.
Let's not pretend that Xi's latest tantrums are even remotely close to what the PRC has tried to do to Taiwan in the past.
The PRC was attacking (real gunfire, not just excersizes) Taiwan for decades after 1948 and they failed to get anywhere with it.
Every PRC dictator since Mao has said they will invade Taiwan. None has done so, and now Taiwan is vastly stronger than the empoverished island that was the remnants of the Republic of China in the 1950s.
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Post by bug on Aug 14, 2022 14:57:06 GMT 10
BTW, does anyone else think that the PRC 'ambassador' looks like a rapist?
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Post by Joey on Aug 14, 2022 17:03:38 GMT 10
By "China's home turf", presumably you mean the Republic of China (Taiwan), not the PRC aggressors. I mean its in chinas backyard that they don't have to travel far for resupply or air and naval support. If china wanted a quick take over of Taiwan, they would be likely just to use chemical weapons to wipe out the entire population. Sure they would be dragged up for war crimes and breach of the Geneva on chemical weapons, but they would just lay the blame on a couple of "rogue" generals as fall guys and have them executed before any trials could commence to try and save face. Its not like the UN etc have the balls to seriously reprimand them since china owns them. |
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Post by malewithatail on Aug 14, 2022 17:13:32 GMT 10
And if you think our Governments wouldn't do exactly the same thing to the population....think again....think covid jabs.....
Most haven't worked it out yet, but there is no finish line this time.
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Post by ausprep130 on Aug 15, 2022 10:09:53 GMT 10
By "China's home turf", presumably you mean the Republic of China (Taiwan), not the PRC aggressors. Taiwanese are almost unanimous in rejecting Beijing. The few doubters are doubters no longer after seeing what has happened to Hong Kong. HK and Taiwan are/were vastly more wealthy and more free than the PRC. HK is now no better than any other large city in the PRC. Meanwhile Taiwan still prospers on a level more like Singapore than the PRC. Taiwan is very, very hard to invade due to geography. It is more like Japan than the Chinese mainland. A tiny defending force can wreak havok on invaders. The only realistic strategy would be a long term blockade. This would undoubtedly lead to sanctions that would push an already faltering PRC economy over the edge. Let's not pretend that Xi's latest tantrums are even remotely close to what the PRC has tried to do to Taiwan in the past. The PRC was attacking (real gunfire, not just excersizes) Taiwan for decades after 1948 and they failed to get anywhere with it. Every PRC dictator since Mao has said they will invade Taiwan. None has done so, and now Taiwan is vastly stronger than the empoverished island that was the remnants of the Republic of China in the 1950s. History Legends on YT posted a vid about the history of the conflict and explains how it has been going on for a very long time and Taiwan has been the aggressor for much of it. |
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Post by bug on Aug 15, 2022 10:22:42 GMT 10
The Republic of China did aim to re-take the mainland. They then realised what a stupid idea continuing the conflict is and they stopped. The PRC needs to do the same.
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Post by tactile on Aug 15, 2022 19:00:03 GMT 10
BTW, does anyone else think that the PRC 'ambassador' looks like a rapist?
That's gold...
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Post by bushdoc2 on Aug 17, 2022 6:32:28 GMT 10
The Republic of China did aim to re-take the mainland. They then realised what a stupid idea continuing the conflict is and they stopped. The PRC needs to do the same. Logic has no part in the decision to sacrifice your peasants to make a point about your ego.
Chinese culture means losing face is a very bad thing. Backing down = losing face. Losing a war is better, as you can at least claim the other side were the baddies and cheated.
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