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Post by malewithatail on Oct 27, 2023 15:16:51 GMT 10
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Post by bug on Oct 27, 2023 16:40:17 GMT 10
A 15 second thing on the news saying the US is diverting 155mm shells to Israel that were intended for the Ukraine... I presume that will cause a kerfuffle among many on both sides of that.. Facts, details, rumors, thoughts ?? Ukraine isn't the 'current thing' any more. It's Israel now. Where the news headlines go, the politicians and the money follows.
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Post by Stealth on Oct 27, 2023 20:18:21 GMT 10
Lets be real, there's probably more money in it for the US if they're directly involved in conflict rather than pushing a proxy war.
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Post by tactile on Oct 27, 2023 21:58:30 GMT 10
A 15 second thing on the news saying the US is diverting 155mm shells to Israel that were intended for the Ukraine... I presume that will cause a kerfuffle among many on both sides of that.. Facts, details, rumors, thoughts ?? The US gave Ukraine the GLSDB in the last week or two...I think they got a good deal in the exchange...missing a delivery of 155 shells wont bother them for a while.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 28, 2023 7:15:15 GMT 10
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 30, 2023 9:10:05 GMT 10
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Post by bug on Oct 30, 2023 13:00:32 GMT 10
Hamas made sure they were well stocked prior to this, as they would have known what Israel's reaction would be. They are also preventing people from gaza leaving, ensuring starvation and death. We've seen in recent times how willing our own government is to prevent us from leaving our own suburb, let alone the country. So it really isn't any different here.
MWT is right. About 3 weeks and you'll see crime skyrocket when people's fridges and pantries become empty.
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Post by Tim Horton on Oct 30, 2023 13:09:49 GMT 10
Interesting snippet of news yesterday afternoon. It concerns the people who are left on the Gaza Strip breaking into warehouses and 'stealing' supplies like rice etc. It only took 3 weeks for them to get to that position, maybe there is a lesson in that for us ? Societal breakdown in 3 weeks...... == == Agree... MAJOR lessons to be taken away from this and applied to our preparedness plans.. Opportunity for a real eye opener of experience to be learned.. If one pays attention, monitors the issues closely and acts to not be caught up in and avoid mistakes that others will make.. As best you can.. Most likely nothing is fool proof.. But you do your best..
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Post by Stealth on Oct 30, 2023 13:19:46 GMT 10
Three weeks seems like right on target for when a household of limited supplies would be getting desperate. Note to self. Pick up more supplies.
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Post by Beno on Oct 30, 2023 14:33:45 GMT 10
It shows the ability, or lack thereof, of the UN to distribute supplies in a way that prevents this reaction. All governments would be the same.
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Post by bug on Oct 30, 2023 14:44:45 GMT 10
It shows the ability, or lack thereof, of the UN to distribute supplies in a way that prevents this reaction. All governments would be the same. The UN does not want aid into Gaza. They want the pictures of dying children. They want Israel to be painted as the bad guy here. Hamas is happy with this too. Expect more anti-Israel votes from them in the future.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 30, 2023 14:59:12 GMT 10
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Post by frostbite on Oct 30, 2023 15:14:04 GMT 10
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Post by bug on Oct 30, 2023 17:46:04 GMT 10
There are already several countries like that now. In the past, 1984 style countries like North Korea were irrelevant to us. Now with China's unprecedented surveillance state, many western politicians are still looking at them doe-eyed and acting like client states. Notice that our prime minister goes to China, but the Chinese dictator doesn't come here? That's classic Chinese imperial behaviour, where foreign rulers would come to bend the knee. Well that's what Albanese is doing right now. Daniel Andrews in particular was/is a big fan of the CCP and introduced several laws during his reign that were a big step in the CCP direction.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 31, 2023 7:43:24 GMT 10
We are out-breeding China, and they are having great issues in encouraging their people to have more little Chinese, due no doubt to the success of the one child policy. 100 years and China is finished, one child per couple isnt enough to maintain a population, let alone expand. All we gotta do is wait......
Everything is backwards now, we are private citizens, the Government should know nothing about us, they are PUBLIC servants and we should know everything about them.
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Post by Stealth on Oct 31, 2023 10:51:46 GMT 10
We are out-breeding China, and they are having great issues in encouraging their people to have more little Chinese, due no doubt to the success of the one child policy. 100 years and China is finished, one child per couple isnt enough to maintain a population, let alone expand. All we gotta do is wait...... Chinese folks are (with a few rare examples) allowed to have three children per family unit now. More, if they're willing and capable of paying the fines. It's not just China. Younger generations aren't having children because of a combination of reasons but one of the biggest ones that I see cited again and again is that they simply can't afford to. There's also a breakdown of long held expectations that young people MUST have children to be considered acceptable in society. Get married, buy a house, have kids. Two of the three are financially out of reach for a lot more of the population than ever before. Not to mention, being married for a long time was largely a big consideration as a financial protective measure for women. There's now more options and freedom for women than have existed previously... Well. There's less reason to be contractually tied to another person if you aren't one million percent committed to them. I'm not saying there wasn't the same pressure on men, just that the pressure on women was 'marry, and try to marry well, because otherwise you won't have a home or future'. So with less requirement to be contractually committed to someone else, less money for everyone in general because money is tighter everywhere, population growth is on the decline over a lot of countries. Australia isn't immune and we'll suffer the same problem over time. Don't forget the "One for mum, one for dad, and one for Australia" catch cry of the late 2000s. The baby bonus still exists although at far lower amounts than it did back in those days. The government is aware that the groups of people who're most likely to see financial boosts as an incentive to have more children are the lower socioeconomic groups who perhaps have either lower education, or more dire need of assistance and therefore consider bonuses as a factor when planning their families. Give people money to breed more disadvantaged stock and you'll not have to worry about them saying 'Wait a minute...'.
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Post by bug on Oct 31, 2023 11:11:03 GMT 10
"We can't afford kids". Better go tell my great-grandfather who had 8 kids during the depression that he was actually wrong. The same people tend not to have trouble affording an apartment in a trendy area, a car, big tv etc.
It's our fault. We've raised a generation of selfish, non-resilient fools who are hellbent on removing themselves from the gene pool. There will be a lot very lonely people in poorly staffed retirement homes in a few decades time, who will be jealously eyeing their neighbours getting visits from the grandkids.
Perhaps handing a Darwin Award to everyone who says "we don't want kids" would wake a few of them up.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 31, 2023 14:16:20 GMT 10
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Post by Stealth on Oct 31, 2023 14:21:42 GMT 10
Everyone's great grandfather's had heaps of kids. That was expected of them. Some of them wanted huge families. I bet just as many didn't, but felt like they didn't have the choice. Children were part of the working force from about 8 years of age back then. Nowadays, you can expect your kids to be in the home and providing for them even through their early 20s, or if you're lucky like so many of my friends they'll be moving back into the family home with THEIR kids for a few years just to save up enough for a deposit to buy their own home.
I think multi-generational homes are a fantastic thing and sorely missed in the community although most people don't realise it. But your great grandfather probably had his eldest kids playing nursemaid to the younger ones while mum did all the housework. Kids are at SCHOOL up until their late teens now. There's no babysitters on tap. Grandparents used to be helping out around the place. Now grandparents have their own separate homes to manage and often are still working full time themselves anyway. For a while there, we were paying $1600k a fortnight in childcare because we had no live-in help, like your great grandfather would have had around him as did most people in those days because families were all in one area.
Your great grandfather, MY great grandfather... They all lived in very different times with very different experiences. It's apples and oranges.
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Post by malewithatail on Oct 31, 2023 14:41:07 GMT 10
5 Kids here, all home-schooled, so they were around all the time, and still are. Its a privilege to be able to provide a roof over the heads of your kids, and its not as if we don't have enough space or resources.
Our son has flown the coop to the NT and WA to do tour guiding in winter and traveling around the world in summer.
Of the others, one has a job local, one is still school age, one is handicapped and the eldest girl is doing another diploma at Uni.
The only way that we can continue to have cheap food is if we have cheap energy.
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